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electricmind | I'm not sure of my mother's birth time. But I am able to see that her Pluto opposes my Sun her Saturn opposes my Moon her Uranus opposes my Venus her Jupiter opposes my Mars her Sun opposes my Jupiter/Neptune/Ascendant conjunction her Mars conjuncts my PlutoOMG! We just do not get along. And its sad...She is my adoptive mother. It feels like its something I can never get over. We are just two completely different people... What gives??? Anyone else have awful synastry/relationship with their mother??? ------------------ my blog |
NickiG | yes, i do....my mother and i have a t-square in our synastry....her moon is on top of my sun, her moon squares my moon, her sun squares my sun, and her sun opposes my moon ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history |
NickiG | and to make it worse, shes an unstable aqua sun/scorp moon ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history |
electricmind | how does that play out in your relationship? ------------------ my blog |
NickiG | its a violent struggle, yet its a codependency she thinks she can survive on her own, and i know i cant survive on my own, but she tempts me all the time to move out shes rude, vulgar, shes the type that supposedly does things for someone "out of the goodness of her heart" but expects someone to do something for her in return "out of the goodness of their heart" shes still going on about how my brother didnt get her anything for christmas or how she hasnt gotten my nieces christmas pictures STILL says i'm on the comp too much when i'm lucky to get on for 30 minutes at a time with my schedule when she asks me to do something and i dont do it right away, she gets pissy....when i do go to do it, she gets pissy...and she gets even more pissy if i were to say something and i'm not allowed to be angry...only she is allowed to be angry at anything...if i were to blow off some steam she'll take it as some kind of attack on her (even if it wasnt her you were mad at) and start yelling at you ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history |
NickiG | and that barely scratches the surface and i am always made out to be the bad guy when company only see me get angry about something...she says "see how she treats me?" but they dont see how she treats me...but no one would, its all mind games and emotional torture ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history |
electricmind | eek. yea i'm convinced my mother is a control freak. and i'm not the one! i'm an aquarius with an aries moon for goodness sake! she has my father and brothers wrapped around her pinky finger and everyone else coddling and catering to her. again! i am NOT the one. so i am the jerk and the selfish ungrateful one. it so hard when my values and everything differ from hers so much. all of those oppositions involving outer planets...thats some heavy stuff! ------------------ my blog |
NickiG | i know exactly where you are coming from shes an aqua sun, so she has a lot of friends....somehow, no one really sees the real her...she complains about her family issues to everyone and she is somehow the innocent one she calls me selfish, self centered and bitter and well...all of the above for bad traits and says i complain all the time when was the last time i had really complained about anything???? i cant remember and she seems to still see me as i was when i was a kid..back then, i was a little bitter, but i was depressed..severely i might add and of course i might want my way all the time, but thats only because I NEVER GET MY WAY!! not once have i gotten anything my way in my entire existence...so yea, excuse me if i might want it my way for a change but no, thats too selfish for her taste ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history |
amelia28 | You may be adopted by her but you are clearly soulmates that have a lot to work out...hence all the oppositions. Find midpoints between the oppositions and the planets that aspect the midpoint for ideas to help mediate the opposing aspects you guys have. I feel you though, its no picnic but it will get better....hang in there.
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amelia28 | quote:
and i'm not allowed to be angry...only she is allowed to be angry at anything...if i were to blow off some steam she'll take it as some kind of attack on her (even if it wasnt her you were mad at) and start yelling at you[/B]
That explains why you are so sweet...you have learned to not express your anger. Do you have mars in the 12th by any chance? edit to add:
it sounds like your mother represses her negative traits so she is in denial she has them and then projects them unto you.
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NickiG | quote: Originally posted by amelia28: That explains why you are so sweet...you have learned to not express your anger. Do you have mars in the 12th by any chance?
actually no, its in the 6th, conjunct my pluto in scorpio ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history |
NickiG | quote: Originally posted by amelia28:
it sounds like your mother represses her negative traits so she is in denial she has them and then projects them unto you.
pretty much ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history |
amelia28 | husband has mars in scorpio and is sweet and looks like he cannot kill a fly until he explodes and then it gets really ugly...but his mars squares venus and his mars conjuncts uranus...so is like conflict with women that threaten his ego result in small discussions unexpectedly been blown out of proportion by him. My best friend from childhood has mars square venus with mars in scorpio like hubby and his mars conjuncts jupiter though but only his wife or ex girlfriends really know how his temper plays out in relationships with women he actually gets involved with...would jupiter help his venus square mars or make it worst?? for hubby the mars conjunct uranus makes the mars square venus aspect harder to deal with I feel. |
NickiG | hm...good question....i think it might make it worse...but i dont really know my mars sextiles my venus...venus opposes jupiter and jupiter trines mars exact ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history |
amelia28 | quote: Originally posted by NickiG: hm...good question....i think it might make it worse...but i dont really knowmy mars sextiles my venus...venus opposes jupiter and jupiter trines mars exact
In your case you would handle your mars energy just fine and is messed up your mother makes you feel bad about getting mad/angry bc when you do you probably express it fine without it leading to things breaking or emotional abuse to name a few. Do you know if your mom was emotionally and physically abused? bc this could explain why any expression of anger even if expressed in a healthy way freaks her out. Edit to add: Or does her natal show oppositions involving pluto? perhaps she is repressing her pluto bc she is scared of it and projects it unto others? |
NickiG | she did suffer bad abuse as a kid no bad opposition to her pluto except to maybe chiron with a 5 degree orb ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history |